In divided times, Gov. Cox prescribes passionate disagreement, minus contempt

NPR | By Sacha Pfeiffer,

Sarah Handel, Lauren Hodges, Natalie Winston

Published September 10, 2026 at 4:07 PM EDT

NPR's Sacha Pfeiffer talks with Spencer Cox, Republican governor of Utah, about his new book, Off Ramp, and his vision for peacemaking.

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Correspondent, Investigations

Sarah Handel

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