In newly released testimony, Jack Smith defends his investigations into Trump

By Scott Detrow,

Luke Garrett

Published January 1, 2026 at 4:41 PM EST

Former special counsel Jack Smith spoke with lawmakers behind closed doors in December. That testimony is now public.

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Scott Detrow

Scott Detrow is a White House correspondent for NPR and co-hosts the NPR Politics Podcast.

Luke Garrett

Luke Garrett is an Elections Associate Producer at NPR News.