Hmong Leaders Rally Against Trump Administration Deportation Push

Feb 24, 2020
Originally published on February 27, 2020 7:55 am

Efforts by the Trump administration to increase deportations to Laos have galvanized the Hmong community in the U.S., and some leaders are speaking out in ways they haven't before.

The Hmong, a Southeast Asian ethnic group, fought as U.S. allies in the Vietnam War. After the war, tens of thousands of them were forced to flee Laos and a crackdown from its Communist government. They came to the U.S. as refugees beginning in the 1970s.

Now the Trump administration is negotiating with Laos to deport thousands of Hmong who have broken the law here.

News of those negotiations has triggered a response in Hmong communities across the nation, and organizers are seeking to rally opposition to new deportations.

Ka Lo's parents came to the U.S. as refugees in the late 1970s. Her father was a war veteran. In 2018, Lo became the first Hmong woman elected to the Marathon County Board in Wausau, Wis.

At a February rally, Lo spoke out against Trump administration immigration policy.

"Policies that rip American communities and families apart have no part in the American lexicon," Lo told a group assembled in front of the city's Hmong-Lao Veterans Memorial, a statue erected in 2016 in honor of Hmong service in the Vietnam War.

Lo in her speech also addressed Hmong leaders directly. In an interview after the rally, she said some leaders were hesitant to hold the rally in the Republican-leaning county that voted for Trump. The event was organized by Tricia Zunker, a Democratic candidate for Congress.

"There were Hmong leaders who didn't want to say anything because they didn't want to seem partisan," Lo said. "This isn't a partisan issue. This is a human rights issue."

There are about 300,000 Hmong people in the U.S., and most are citizens, either because their status as refugees allowed them to become naturalized or because they are part of generations who were born here.

But some are green card holders — legal permanent residents, but not citizens. An estimated 4,500 of these people have deportation orders against them, usually because they have been convicted of a crime. Those deportation orders can stay in effect for decades, even after these individuals have served their time.

Hmong have generally been protected from deportation in the past because the government of Laos wouldn't accept most U.S. deportees. According to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement report, there were five deportations to Laos in the last fiscal year.

But the State Department told NPR that the Trump administration is calling on Laos to accept more deportees, and has offered funding for a reintegration program there. The administration has secured a similar agreement with Cambodia, and has also increased deportations to Vietnam.

Advocates say Hmong people could still face persecution in Laos, and very few of them have any connection to the country.

"Many of these individuals came into the United States as children," said Chai Moua of Stevens Point, Wis.

Moua works for Freedom Inc., a nonprofit that is helping those at risk of deportation to get legal protections. She met this month with a group of Hmong women in Wisconsin who fled Laos decades ago. In the group of 20, she said, four had children now at risk of deportation.

"These mothers are saying: These are the children that we had on our backs while we crossed the Mekong River," Moua said. "These are the children that we had risked our lives for, to bring here to the United States."

In the last 20 years, the U.S. has initiated deportation proceedings in court against 4,955 citizens of Laos, many of whom were Hmong. (Court data do not specify the individuals' ethnic group.) Court records for 3,932 of them included information on how long the individuals had been in the United States. According to immigration data compiled by Syracuse University, more than 80% of those had been in the U.S. for more than a decade. Forty-nine percent had been in the U.S. for 20 years or more.

The Trump administration has given little indication about where negotiations with Laos stand. But the news has been enough to trigger panic in some parts of the Hmong community, and a spread of misinformation, such as the false notion that any Hmong resident could become eligible for deportation. Leaders say they're trying to quell those fears, while also connecting those who could be at risk with resources to help them. And they're asking elected officials at all levels to try to influence Trump policy. In Wisconsin, Democrats in the state legislature have said they'll introduce a resolution condemning the Trump administration's efforts. Congresswoman Betty McCollum, a Minnesota Democrat, says she'll introduce legislation this week that would stop Hmong deportations.

"Because there's no information [from official sources], it creates this fear," said Yee Leng Xiong, director of Wausau's Hmong American Center. "It's a fear of the unknown."

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STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

The latest immigrant group facing deportation by the Trump administration are the Hmong. This Southeast Asian group first came to the United States as refugees. They were fleeing Laos and a communist crackdown after the Vietnam War. Now the United States is negotiating with Laos to send thousands back. Rob Mentzer of Wisconsin Public Radio has more.

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KA LO: It's cold. We got to do this.

ROB MENTZER, BYLINE: On a bright, bitter cold winter day, members of the Hmong community and their allies gathered outside the courthouse in Wausau, Wis.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

LO: Policies that rip American communities and families apart have no part in the American lexicon.

MENTZER: Ka Lo is the first Hmong woman elected to the county board. Her parents came to the U.S. as refugees in the late 1970s. She says news that the Trump administration wants to ramp up deportations of Hmong has galvanized the community. She says leaders, including herself, are speaking out in ways they never have before.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

LO: Now, I have a message for our Hmong leaders. And I'm going to say this in Hmong. (Speaking Hmong).

MENTZER: In an interview after the rally, Lo said some Hmong leaders had been hesitant to hold a rally in the Republican-leaning county that voted for Trump.

LO: My message in Hmong that I said was that we have to come together to help each other because we're not going to get through this dividing each other.

MENTZER: Hmong soldiers fought as allies of the United States in the Vietnam War. After the war ended, tens of thousands fled Laos and persecution from its communist government. And for years, the government of Laos wouldn't accept most deportees from the U.S. Now the State Department has confirmed to NPR the Trump administration is asking Laos to accept more deportees and has offered funding for a reintegration program there. The administration has secured a similar agreement with Cambodia and has also increased deportations to Vietnam.

Yang Sao Xiong is a professor of Asian American studies at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He says Hmong communities are feeling betrayed.

YANG SAO XIONG: There are times when they are treated as citizens, and then there are times when they are treated as clearly outsiders. So this relationship fluctuates depending on this larger political context.

MENTZER: There are about 300,000 Hmong people in the U.S., and most are citizens, but some are not. And about 4,500 of these green card holders have deportation orders against them. That's because they've been convicted of a crime or found to have violated immigration laws. Advocates say these people could still face persecution in Laos, and very few of them have any connection to that country.

CHAI MOUA: Many of these individuals came into the United States as children.

MENTZER: Chai Moua works for Freedom Inc., a Madison-based nonprofit that's helping those at risk of deportation to get legal protection. She recently met with a group of Hmong women who fled Laos years ago and whose children could now be deported.

MOUA: These mothers are saying, these are the children that we had on our backs while we crossed the Mekong River. These are the children that we had risked our lives to bring here to United States.

MENTZER: The Wausau World Market is a Hmong-owned mall with shops selling bubble tea, fishing gear and traditional Hmong dress.

YEE LENG XIONG: As you can tell, there's multiple shops through here. And then they also do farmers market.

MENTZER: Yee Leng Xiong is the director of Wausau's Hmong American Center. This central Wisconsin city of about 40,000 people has almost 5,000 Hmong residents, the highest concentration of anywhere in the U.S. Xiong says the negotiations with Laos have created panic in the community.

YEE LENG XIONG: Because there's no information, it creates this fear that's still going on, this fear of the unknown.

MENTZER: Xiong and other leaders say they're trying to keep misinformation from spreading. And they're asking elected officials to step in to prevent the deportations.

For NPR News, I'm Rob Mentzer in Wausau, Wis.

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